And ok,,Mansell was pretty special,I won’t argue with you there.

Mansell was a World Champion and Indy Car Champion during 1 week in 1993 as a 40 yr old.

How old was Fangio when he was winning his titles?

Eddie Ervine…just looked forward to payday so he could live up his playboy lifestyle.

Brundell,not even an almost guy,put up a fight,but knew when he was beaten.

De Cesaris,less said the better.

Piquet..a legend overshadowed by the young Schuey

Herbert…a one hit wonder,again overshadowed by the outperforming Michael.

Massa…his best teamate to date,cheated out of two championships,not by Michael,but Renault and inhouse dealings with Toyota to give Hamilton 5th place in the Brazilian GP.

And it’s thanks to Michael passing on his skills to his apprentice that Massa is indeed the driver he has become.
And i doubt he would hear a word said against Michael.

If he is to be destructed by the other drivers,It will be age that is the component,in his hayday there would be little or no competition.

We will see what happens

It’ll be fun to see Vettel and Hamilton totally dismantle the German. I’m sure Alonso, Button, Massa and Webber will enjoy making a mockery of the old man too.

Too bad Kimi won’t be around to join in Schumacher’s destruction.

I did have another long winded retort for Tanveer,but as I clicked on Submit,it came up -input email address,clicked back and my highly persuasive retort had gone.

And seeing as Tanveer seems to be a walking encyclopedia on F1,I did’nt bother doing it again.

I feel confident that Michael will do all the talking on the track.

If this is a record does Tanveer and myself get a prize?

Obviously he had talent and obviously he wasn’t ordinary.

Re-read my posts in this section of the blogs and you’ll see so yourself.

Again, I would love to hear the opinions of the Podcast panel regarding the strength of the driver era 1994-2004 which was book-ended by Senna’s death and the arrival of Raikkonen, Alonso and then Hamilton/Vettel in competitive cars.

I would also like the Podcast panel to discuss which of the “All Time Greats” did Schumacher actually beat straight up?

I count Schumacher along with Senna, Prost, Mansell, Hakkinen, Alonso, Raikkonen and Hamilton amongst the “25 All Time Greats” but Schumacher himself never truly had the measure of any of them (save Hamilton for obvious reasons).

Lastly, whilst Prost drove against giants like Lauda-Rosberg-Senna-Mansell back-to-back in the same car, Schumacher had Journeymen Number 2s as teammates who weren’t allowed to beat him on the rare occasion they might be faster.

Finally, there was the repeated cheating…not to mention the ‘special’ relationship between Ferrari and the FIA between, particularly, 1996 and 2007.

It would be good for the Podcast team to discuss all these things…there aren’t any Grand Prix races going on right now…so this is about as good a time to hear their views on the matter.

Tanveer you are full of hate,,thats no way to live,hate terrorists,murderers and rapists,but not a racing driver.

It’s true that I have more important things to do in my life other than to know the circumference of a washer on a GP car.
I know more about GP than the average man,but not as much as you,as I have said twice already.

But just because you schpeel all that mumbo jumbo,Doesn’t mean your a better judge than myself,,I could easily pick up a book and bore you rigid with facts.

What I don’t understand is…that all the impartial big wigs in the sport,when asked about Schumachers abilities,don’t come out with all that derg you have.Surely you are not the only person to have collated so much information to deflate his greatness.

If he is really just an ordinary driver as you imply,,would the title he holds in such esteem really be recognized by the all the major authorities in the world,,apart from the planet of Tanveer off course.

As much as you downplay his success,you are in a minority,Schu has a world following,people aren’t going to be re-tuning into F1 to see him make a fool of himself.

They want to see the master at work again

as fun as our differing views go,,I can only see us going around in circles.

Lets just say we are both right,and In March,we should get some idea how things will play out.

I print facts, names, dates and compare various drivers to each-other…and you, unfortunately, resort to typing silly comments which shows that you have little to no interest in being objective…or of rating drivers who competed between 1991-2006.

I’m very happy with who I am and the way i’ve gone about making my fortune and don’t need to hero worship anyone (especially someone I have never met) in order to have any sense of self worth. My sense of self worth both as a person and financially is quite high and i’m very comfortable with who I am.

Having said that, I have met Barrichello, Fittipaldi and J Villeneuve and they seem to be normal people outside the cockpit like anyone else.

Good luck with the hero worshiping, Juan…you certainly seem to need it badly.

:)

But you hate him with a passion,It’s quite freaky.
I can’t argue with all your facts and figure’s,your knowledge is far superior to mine,
You missed your vocation,you should have been a barrister.

And that statement….Massive cheat.er Tanveer thats not what the headlines say.

whatever happens you’ll never be happy.what if Michael does well,you’ll be saying it’s the car.
Well I’ll leave you with your vile hatred and facts and dates etc.
give it up Tanveer,,you’ll never be Michael nor have an ounce of his talent.

Deal with it….I had to lol

Shumacher *did* “drive” against a handfull of “All Time Greats” but he didn’t really “beat” any of them in remotely similar machinery.

Let’s start with Senna, Prost and Mansell…

Schumacher was in his third season of F1 when Senna destroyed him 5 wins to 1 using a Ford engine which was 2 full specs BEHIND the one in the Benetton. That was 1993.

By the 4th round of 1994, all three of them (SEN, PRO, MAN) were gone.

You may say “Schumi” was young…but then so was Hamilton in 2007 and Vettel in 2008/9…and yet “Schuey” was no where near Senna in 1993 inspite of having the advantage of the “works” Ford engine.

So, who was Schumacher actually genuinely beating between 1994-2004?

Answer: Hill, Coulthard, ‘JV’, Montoya, Barrichello…

Well, we ALL KNOW that Hill was NOT in Senna’s league.

Coulthard, the man who “replaced” Senna, was CRUSHED by a young Raikkonen at McLaren.

Montoya, Coulthard’s replacement, was CRUSHED by Raikkonen at McLaren. Also.

‘JV’ was overshadowed by a young Button (at BAR)…and then a young Massa (at Sauber) and then a young Alonso (for three races at Renault).

Barrichello? LOL. Well, WE KNOW that Rubens was never in Senna’s league…and then he got badly beaten this year by Button, 6 wins to 2.

So, to conclude, RAI, ALO, MAS and BUT were all SUPERIOR than the likes of Coulthard, Barrichello, Montoya and ‘JV’.

Who, then, of any MAJOR talent level did “Schumi” actually beat?

Hakkinen?

Schumacher went went toe-to-toe with the Finn in equal machinery but the count is inconclusive. Remember, the Ferrari was so good that a forgettable Journeyman Number 2 like Irvine was able to challenge for the title in 1999.

Schumacher, frankly, beat no ones “in-team” and he didn’t comprehensively beat any of the “All Time Greats” like Senna, Prost, Mansell, Hakkinen, Raikkonen, Alonso and Hamilton (who will thrash him to no end in 2010…as will Vettel.)

Furthermore, Schumacher was a MASSIVE cheat…and history will ALWAYS view him as the greatest cheat of all the World Champions…Starting with that illegal 1994 Benetton and his actions after hitting the wall in Adelaide.

Have a nice week, Juan.

So if you are bored with counting your money and looking at chocolate box mountain views,and your mr’s has got to the stage she is wearing big knickers….and racing F1 cars is really your bag….mannnnn,then why not.

And so what if that’s the only good thing he is good at,I would gladly swap places with him…although the big knickers have got to go,and perhaps a move to a warmer climate.

Raikkonen is a talented driver,but not the complete package,he is probably a great bloke,but hell was he boring when giving interviews,if he spoke to himself in his thoughts,it’s no wonder he crashed so many times,,that would explain his rallying crash of late.
I can see his manager saying to him now;

“Now lishhen tu mi Kimi,,,pleash pleash dunt dunt zinc tu yorzelf,nut efen torlk tu yorzelf ven yu are drivin cher vrally car”

To my memory Schuey did drive with the greats,or were all those races I watched imaginary,not to mention magazines and all those tedious big F1 annuals,year books,whatever their called…you know…the ones that seem to have more pictures of Michael than anyone else and descriptions of a glittering career….lies lies lies..they must really make you angry Tanveer.

As for idea…go for it.I will also concur to their decision…excellent idea

Tell me, why was Schumacher scared to get into a Ferrari under co-equal conditions with Raikkonen in 2007 and then again after Massa’s accident in 2009?

Why?

The real answer is that the Finn was a far superior animal to Brundle, Verstappen, Herbert, Irvine and Barrichello. Those ex-teammates of the German were not even in the same ball park as Raikkonen.

And if you think i’m “insane” to think that the post-Senna driver era was weaker than the Prost-Senna-Mansell-Piquet era that preceeded it…and the Raikkonen-Alonso-Hamilton-Vettel era that began to take shape in 2005-2007, then you must think others at Motor Sport Magazine are insane too.

Here’s an idea: How about we have the Podcast panel at Motor Sport discuss the strength of the driver era May 1994-Oct 2004 vis-a-vis that ones that preceeded and then followed it?

I’ll stand by their judgement whatever they say.

Your knowledge of F1 appears to be much more advanced than mine……….and everybody elses.The advance world would not pin such great admiration on a pretender.surely you must think the likes of Walker and Lauda are bafoons with no knowledge of F1 whatsoever.

As for your comment on the weakest driver periods….are you insane…
he would not even be included as one of the greatest by impartial judges if your argument were so convincing,
And you seem so intense that he alone in the history of motor racing has cheated.

But I do agree with DDT on one thing,,the Brawn/Schumacher partnership is a force,and the chaf will be expelled.thats what happens in well managed business,that partnership is the envy of the paddock,

Well I have been enjoying this argument,but we really have to agree to disagree.we will have to see how he gets on,
I happen to think there are some extremely good drivers out there,that will test him to the limit.

If your argument is shared by the young drivers,,surely they would not relish racing against a fraud.
and I did state that Schuey is the key to getting Vettel,off course he is not the future of Mercedes,he wants some fun,and the world wants him back,,,well apart from you and some others…Hill fans and the like..

SCHUMACHER WORLD CHAMPION 2010

SPAIN WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS 2010

Schumacher on the other hand has nothing else going for him (other than looking at his ageing wife day and night) and couldn’t beat anyone in junior formula and had to cheat at Macau against Hakkinen before getting his Jordan seat bought by Mercedes…and recently he’s gotten beaten by Indy Lights girls and young karters less than half his age in the same karts!

My dear Juan…let me tell you all about the real world:

Of course Bernie will hype “Schumi” because that is what Bernie is supposed to do. Bernie’s job is to promote CVC Partner’s interests in Formula One, a venture which has seen it’s market value plummet during the global credit shake-out of the past couple of years.

Look, I don’t think Schumacher was ‘talentless’. Of course he had ‘talent’…how couldn’t he be?

I just think he drove with the cards stacked in his favour during one of the weakest driver eras in history (following Senna’s death)…and even when those stacked cards didn’t fall the right way, he resorted to cheating…and THAT, i’m afraid, will never make him ‘the greatest ever’.

You know, we all know that the 1994 Benetton ran illegal launch control/traction control software and rigged the fuel rigs (which lead to Verstappen nearly getting fried to a crisp)…and then “Schuey” had to resort to piling into Hill after making an error and binning the car into a wall.

It all started there.

Schumacher is a spent force and will get destroyed by Vettel, Hamilton and company…and Mercedes will look to Vettel and then Hulkenberg (if he goes like I think he will) as the Germans to put in their cars for years to come.

Your Red Barron is a stop gap measure at a time when the value of F1 has declined from a financial/economic point of view.

Bernie needs all the hype he can get. CVC Partners are wondering when they’re going to make a profit…because, frankly, everything has imploded since they pumped their private equity money in the sagging venture.

Vettel and the two Blonde Nicos are Germany’s and Mercedes’ F1 future, not old man “Schumi”.

Now learn to deal with it.

Feliz Navidad, Juan! :)

I’m not saying your right nor wrong…who knows.I don’t really care,all I go on is FACTS,and I won’t bore you again with my appraisal of a certain German genius..
I’m afraid that I partially agree with Tanveer..Vettel is to be fed into Mercedes via Schuey..HUH! maybe they think the gimp has some kind of influence or name in F1

Saying that…..Michael joined Ferrari when they had a pig of a car,why should he be coy about driving a below par car….
and yes Button may have got wind of certain changes,,,,,,but heres another conspiracy theory….maybe he was meant to…ooohh.
I will be looking forward to Hamilton kicking that excuse making playboys bottom at Mclaren

Having mentioned the word CONSPIRACY four times,I would say don’t spend too much time thinking about such things,we may never know the truth.
Whatever you think of Schumacher just enjoy the racing,I’m sure it’s going to be great.

And finally Tanveer…Don’t ridiculously talented aces get snapped up by other teams ….or did you mean to type ridiculously untalented letdowns.are we talking about the same driver described by Ferrari as ” GONE FISHING”

The fact of the matter is that Vettel – not Old Man “Schuey” – is the is the real future of Mercedes Grand Prix(…and then there might possibly be another even younger German after that who will be driving for Williams this year…)

Vettel and Hamilton are the two drivers in their early 20s who are likely to dominate the next handful of years (along with possibly Kubica)…and “Shumi” is merely a marketing side show who could fizzle out as early as the Summer of 2010.

If you want to go Banco on a German dominating Grand Prix racing for Mercedes over the next decade, then I’d put my money on Vettel and, then, Nico Hulkenberg.

Heck, I’d go even as far as saying that Hulkenberg is a better bet than the 41 year-old with the fragile neck at this moment!

You’re right about “Shumi” in one respect though: He got in the F2007 and decided to make a comeback…but he didn’t have the man-hood to do it against Raikkonen in the KERS infested P.I.G Ferrari F60!

He was too chicken to go up against the Finn at Monza this year – just as he was back in 2006.

You see, it’s one thing to have the measure of Number 2 Journeymen like Verstappen, Irvine and Barrichello…but entirely another matter against ridiculously talented Aces like Raikkonen.

Expect Adrian Newey to work his magic and give Vettel a leg up on the all-British McLaren ‘super-team’ in 2010.

Changing the subject completely, I think this adds an interesting dimension to Button’s move to McLaren. There is no way, in my mind, that Button didn’t catch wind of something. Haug’s body oder would have tipped him, if nothing else. (“Why is that guy so exicted?”) The idea that this just “popped up” after Jenson left, is not credible.

Dragging Jenson’s negotiations out. All the car manufacturers bail on F1, but Mercedes jumps in at the last minute (WTF?). Michael almost drives the Ferrari, but suddenly steps away, but then 2 months later everything is fine? Ross decides he doesn’t like owning a team, hates seeing his name on the championship car, so sells out to Mercedes. The whole thing is a little smelly.

So, conspiracy theorists will surmise that much was known, much earlier. Did Schumacher and Brawn quietly convince Mercedes to buy out Brawn? Did Schumacher step out of the Ferarri at the last minute to move on a Mercedes deal? Ross would have counseled Michael not to go half way. “Either comeback, or don’t. And, if you do, I’ll talk with Mercedes I’m sure they’ll back you 100%. Don’t waste your time with the Ferrari, even Kimi can’t drive it! You’ll just look like an idiot. Tell them your neck hurts.”

I am fully prepared to believe that Michael got a taste of driving the F2007, and decided to come back while still in the cockpit. But what happened afterward, has nothing to do with Michael’s neck, and everything to do with Ross telling Mercedes that he could get Michael back in a car, full time.

At the same time you’ve got Button negotiating with Nick Fry. Fry is the guy most responsible for those two awful Hondas that ended Honda’s participation, and nearly Button’s career, in F1. It is likely that Jenson lambasted Fry over those two cars, and that their relationship actually soured years ago.

Fry, salivating that Schumacher might be joining the team, stalls the talks. Sensing trouble on many fronts, (Ross knows we hate each other, why doesn’t he jump in and resolve this?). A secret like this would be hard to keep within the team, so Button got wind that his services wouldn’t be needed, so he opened serious negotiations with McLaren.

At some point the big deal starts to gel, and Michael says “I want Rossberg as my team mate”, and the die is cast.

What’s weird is that Jenson can drive a great car MUCH better than a guy like Barichello, who seems to prefer the misbehaving car. But in this era of super-engineered, endlessly computer-simulated cars, you’d have to prefer the driver who can take successful engineering to the winner’s circle, rather than a driver who doesn’t understand what you’re trying to do.

So good on Jens for capitalizing on his once in a lifetime opportunity, and jumping to a team that routinely builds a superior car, and even wants him (even if they do think he’s raw meat for Lewis).

As for Schumacher, this has his fingerprints all over it. It’s his modus operandi, isn’t it? He and Ross have already done this. They master-minded the team at Ferarri, dictating everything the team did: team mates, designers, cars, strategy and it worked brilliantly.

Christ, this guy’s is nearly a billionaire, AND a seven time world champion. Why would he come back on compromised terms? He can buy the whole fricking team if he wants. This is not only smart, it’s Michael’s way. Last year was a dream come true for Ross Brawn, but the party just gets better. It really didn’t make sense for Ross to surrender ownership to Mercedes, unless something like this was already done.

My prediction: Schumacher won’t get along with Fry any better than Button did. Fry will be gone, and he won’t be alone. Ross knows who to keep, and who to loose, and now he can afford to go after the guys he and Michael wants.

Tut…silly me,,I’d better get on to all the news agencies and report a considerable fraud on the list of all his successes and record breaking achievements.But then who will be the most successful driver then…..Well it’s not the great brazillian,and it’s no good saying “if he didn’t die then”as we cannot predict the future
He came to a premature end,a great loss to his family and F1.

Well it’s no good arguing with someone so full of hatred for the poor german.
I am biased its true,but I can also acknowledge that there are many great racing drivers out there,after all it’s all down to a matter of second and tenths that determine the front grid.

I’m going to ring Bernie and tell him the truth about Schuey,,that might end the love affair.boy will he be red in the face when he finds out.

And just out of interest,,last year I was backing Kubica and Sutil.
But now the king is back or should I say

DER KONIG IST ZURUK!!!!

TIME WILL TELL……Feliz Navidad

I suspect I’m not alone here, but R Tanveer’s anti-Schumacher postings are just a drag.

He’s entitled to his views of course but please R Tanveer, post them in a forum where they’re welcome and not a tedious distraction.

Mature F1 fans are only too familiar with the pro/anti views held by others and veen-splenting postings are not about to change opinions. They’re just a bore.

You’ll never be able to defend the fact that whilst Senna went straight up against the likes of Prost…and whilst Prost himself crushed Lauda, Rosberg and Mansell IN THE SAME CAR and fought tooth-and-nail against Senna…your ‘red barron’ beat no ones at Benetton and Ferrari…and even if they were ahead, they were asked to move over!

Hakkinen was the only Ace on the grid between May 1994 and the time which heralded the arrival of Raikkonen/Alonso on the scene with remotely competitive cars. Other than that, there were no All Time Greats for Schumacher to beat…let alone have as a co-equal partner within the team.

Further, “Schumi” was nothing without Ross Brawn…and showed repeatedly what a gutless coward and cheat he really was: As soon as he knew Brawn was going and Raikkonen was coming, your ‘red barron’ turned chicken and ‘retired’.

Then, this past season, “Schuey” was too gutless to get in that Ferrari F60 at Monza knowing what a pig that KERS car really was and didn’t want to get his red behind wiped by an incredibly in-form Raikkonen – again!

Your “Red barron” likes odds stacked firmly in his favour and Ross Brawn is his Merlin (without whom Herr Baron have to resort to cheating more often than he did.)

Spare us your rivisionist biases, Juan. As per hours in engineering debriefs…well i’m sorry to burst your bubble but Prost and Senna wrote the book on the subject.

Ask Johnny Herbert how “Schumi” used double standards with respect to ‘data’.

The only reason the German is coming back is because – unlike Raikkonen/Alonso/Hamilton/Vettel – Nico is not an Ace and Ross Brawn will once again try and give him all the edges he wants…but this time nothing will help him.

Bottom line, Juan, is this is not the weakened post-Senna driver era. This is one of the stronger driver eras in Grand Prix racing history…and Herr Schumi will get his behind kicked all over the planet just like Senna did in 1993 inspite of using the inferior Ford engine by two full specs!

Happy New Year, Juan.

But here we go again…..The Great Brazilian!!!!!.
It’s true,he was good,..I’m not totally blind to the fact he was very talented,,not to the point,as you say wiping bottoms,you may as well say Prost was just as good as him.That was were his real competition came as they drove identical cars,and Senna had to fight hard to beat him,,so kudos for Prost,he doesn’t get much of a mention does he.

What impresses most people about Schumacher is not just his capability to drive a car faster than anybody else lap after lap,or the fact he puts in more hours with the engineers making his car perfect whilst some of the other drivers are playboying it around Monaco..nor even is it the fact he can knit a jumper whilst controlling a race from the front…he really is that cool.

It is the fact that whilst drivers like Fangio and indeed your Great Brazilian only ever changed to another team that would supply a top car….
Mr Red Barron did not,he joined an ailing team,and the rest is history,I need not go on,you people aren’t silly,,you know your car racing.

And for gods sake!!stop going on about the Hill incident,It’s only because he is English we were distraught about the affair,much like Maradonna and his golden hand,put it behind you..after all we haven’t had a driver worth classing as a legend since errrr……..erm……..er…..well Jack Brabham will do.

Now if Schumacher was english you schuey haters may be singing a different tune

pero yo soy espanol,,

Whilst I was never a fan of Michael out of the car, in it he was clearly in a class of his own not only in terms of speed but the way he applied himself to the job. 100% commitment. On the other hand he took Senna’s ruthlessness to the next level. The FIA should have nipped that in the bud early in his career with sanctions but on the whole his return is a positive thing that will add to next years championship. Mr Tanveer, your words are ridiculous and that`s not a place for this here. Doesn`t matter, if or how many races Schumacher will win next year: He is the 7 times world champion and it`s brave to come back!

Eventhough the great Brazilian only had use of a Ford engine two specs older/weaker than the one in the German’s Benetton, he still managed to wipe your “barron’s” red behind all over the world during that 1993 season. Perhaps old Murray and Herr Lauda have forgotten it…but I certainly haven’t.

Indeed, Juan, most of us will care about Grand Prix racing well *after* your “barron” has gone and been burried – again…Something which is likely to happen sometime before the end of 2010…

…and then what will you have left?

Nothing!

Make sure you hang on to those tainted old “red” memories, Juan…you’ll need them.

Merry Christmas, Juan.

To my mind,and many others,he was shoehorned out of seat to make way for the most boring finn of all time…Ferrari’s first mistake,and now they are taking on a the stropiest driver since mr Montoya,good as he is,he is very unmanagable hence he will not get the loyalty and input and lets face it,the love Michael got.He is the embodyment of a present day Alexander,,obviously racing cars as opposed to raising an empire.

I feel very sorry for you Drood,you are a very angry and jealous person with no idea what a sociopath is..infact that remark is very offensive and you are deluded.go and spend some time up at Brampton,you’ll find out the true meaning of sociopath.

And you Schuey haters out there want to talk about race fixing,,you need not look back too far,,remember Piquet and Renault,,Massa was cheated from a world championship in my mind.
The cheating,race fixing or team orders goes on all the time in many teams,its not entirely Schumacher territory,remember Senna and Prost.that was nigh on industrial espionage.or does your Formula one knowledge not go that far.

Indeed Schuey did do some crazy stuff,he’s been around some time,,and he is so bad at being bad,,the faults are plainly obvious,when you are the best,it must be incredibly hard to drop your guard.

After Michael retired,I became a bit disinterested with F1,I wasn’t a hard fast can’t miss a minute fan,it had lost it’s zest with the red barron gone.I will relish the master at work in march.win or lose,hate or love him,he is the reason millions of people will come back to F1..

The man is the nastiest, most despicable piece of work to ever set foot in an F1 car.

We had 12 years of this odious jerk tarnishing F1. Race fixing, blatant cheating etc…

It’s very sad that this man is seen as anything other than the loathsome sociopath he really is.

Most of us (myself included) tought that Massa would be a joke against Schumi, and yet he won races against him, and wasn’t afraid to screw up Schumi’s strategy to win a race (Turkey 06) and since being paired with him as gone on to become an ever improving driver; he lost to Hamilton by the tiniest of margins!

Hopefully (for Rosberg’s sake) something similar will happen. Then again, Rosberg’s manager doesn’t carry the surname Todt.

Merry x-mas to everybody and thanks again to all the team at Motor Sport who give us such a wonderful place to talk about this sport that, as we can see from these comments, we’re all very passionate about.

Only someone who doesn’t care to know their motor racing history would think that the post-Senna era – where there wasn’t a single World Champion left on the grid from the 4th round of 1994 on – was anything but weak.

Fine, Hakkinen was an Ace…what what did he have to drive until late in 1997? Nothing.

Furthermore, the fact that someone so forgettable as Irvine was able to challenge Hakkinen for the title tells you all you need to know about how fast and bullet-proof the Ferraris were heading into the new Millenium…and that’s not including the FIA advatages which the Scuderia had stacked in it’s favour.

Merry Christmas, Mario.